This article about a C-SPAN interview is a real hoot and not to be missed! There’s an update on this subject today on Jonathan Schwartz’ site: http://www.tinyrevolution.com/mt/
Tomgram: posted February 14, 2008 2:58 pm
Jonathan Schwarz, Bill Kristol's Obscure Masterpiece The Lost Kristol Tapes
What the New York Times Bought
By Jonathan Schwarz
[...] I'm talking about Kristol's two-hour appearance on C-Span's Washington Journal on March 28, 2003, just nine days after the President launched his invasion of Iraq.
[...] Opposite Kristol on the segment was Daniel Ellsberg, famed for leaking the Pentagon Papers in the Vietnam era. Their discussion jumped back and forth across 40 years of U.S.-Iraqi relations, and is easiest to understand if rearranged chronologically.
[...] To start with, Ellsberg made the reasonable point that Iraqis might not view the invading Americans as "liberators," since the U.S. had been instrumental in Saddam Hussein's rise to power: Here's how he put it:
"ELLSBERG: People in Iraq... perceive Hussein as a dictator... But as a dictator the Americans chose for them.
"KRISTOL: That's just not true. We've had mistakes in our Iraq policy. It's just ludicrous -- we didn't choose Hussein. We didn't put him in power.
[...] Ellsberg here is referring to U.S. support for a 1963 coup involving the Ba'athist party, for which Saddam was already a prominent enforcer -- and then another coup in 1968 when the Ba'athists consolidated control, after which Saddam became the power behind the nominal president. According to one of the 1963 plotters, "We came to power on a CIA train." (Beyond providing lists of communists and leftists to be murdered, the U.S. also gave the new regime napalm to help them put down a Kurdish uprising we'd previously encouraged.) James Crichtfield, then head of the CIA in the Middle East, said, "We really had the t's crossed on what was happening" This turned out not to be quite right, since factional infighting among top Iraqis required the second plot five years later for which, explained key participant Abd al-Razzaq al-Nayyif, "you must [also] look to Washington."
Yet it appears clear on video that Kristol is genuinely startled by what Ellsberg was saying.
[...] Later, when the discussion gets closer to the present. Kristol's demeanor changes. He appears to be better informed and therefore shifts to straightforward lies:
"ELLSBERG: Why did we support Saddam as recently as when you were in the administration? And the answer is--
"KRISTOL: We didn't support Saddam when I was in the administration.
[...] This is preposterously false. First of all, Kristol worked in the Reagan administration as Education Secretary William Bennett's chief of staff -- when the U.S. famously supported Saddam's war against Iran with loans, munitions, intelligence, and diplomatic protection for his use of chemical weapons. After George H.W. Bush was elected in 1988, Kristol moved to the same position in Vice President Quayle's office. During the transition, Bush's advisors examined the country's Iraq policy and wrote a memo explaining to the incoming President the choice he faced. In a nutshell, this was "to decide whether to treat Iraq as a distasteful dictatorship to be shunned when possible, or to recognize Iraq's present and potential power in the region and accord it relatively high priority. We strongly urge the latter view."
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/174894
February 19, 2008
Is Bill Kristol an Idiot?
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Etichette: Bill Kristol, CIA, Daniel Ellsberg, Iraq, James Crichtfield, Jonathan Schwarz, Saddam Hussein
February 17, 2008
Ramming Neo-Liberalism Down Our Funny Bones
My Sunday Sermon
Is Jon
Stewart a Neo-Liberal?
Watching The Daily Show evolve into a mass media phenomenon has been educational, in many ways. While most leftist initially celebrated the show’s hip, smart and clever manner of exposing political lies and hypocrisies, the past two years of serious celebrity have brought about an evolution in the show’s agenda. It’s taken a bit of time to sort out why and what has disturbed me watching JS go through the paces with his guests, but last weeks’ show with William (Bill) Kristol nailed it
It’s a kindlier, friendlier Project Mockingbird.
We don’t want a terse Tom Brokaw telling us his point of view is neutral (unsympathetic), or cheerleader Katie Couric helping us find the “right” emotions to frame the situation (too chick-eee). We want to laugh and feel together in our solitude as extreme leader of Planet Earth. So, we have voted Jon Stewart to be most popular news mouth for the neo-liberal agenda.
Whow, you say! Do you mean Jon Stewart’s need to be popular might exceed his ability to critically assess the impact of his proclamations on viewers? Or, more cynically, could he be distracting us from digging into real issues as he "plays" with his neo-con adversaries? Imposserass!
Well, look at the record.
Going back into the last century, Mr. Stewart was letting such neo-liberal greats as Madeline Albright appear almost pretty on the show, while never turning the heat up one bit for this lady who easily condemns children to death. Perhaps the most embarrassing interview was with Lynn Cheney, out to shill a book but teased, every so coyly by JS for an invite to meet her Darth Vader hubby.
In the category of truly creepy, for the past few days CNN has run a promo for Larry K
ing’s pre-Oscar interview with Jon, who we hear proudly shouting at Larry: “I will be your monkey!” Now that’s someone I’d follow into the hills! Vive, Jon!
Most sickening are the lost opportunities to truly nail Bill Kristol for the cynical, hypocritical, opportunistic slime that he is. Last week the two of them pretended to be pundits and threw down a verbiage of bullshit so awesome and awful I nearly puked. I couldn’t comprehend Stewart’s responses to Kristol on Iraq by agreeing that: “Violence is way down” in Iraq and shrieking: “I believe that unless we keep 150,000 people there they will slaughter each other…”
That’s beyond embarrassing. That’s propaganda.
The interview continued with wild and crazy sound bites worthy of Faux Noise, beefed up with praise for the “Anbar Awakening,” which led to the finale of hand shakes and agreement on how reasonable they both are.
Reasonable, yes, as long as the United States of America controls the world (and beyond!).
Enjoy your Sunday, Citizens!
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Etichette: Bill Kristol, CNN, Jon Stewart, Larry King, Lynn Cheney, Madeline Albright, neo-liberal, The Daily Show

